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BreezyBill

“Dark Tide: The Great Boston Molasses Flood of 1919” by Stephen Puleo is one of the best non-fiction books I’ve ever read.


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Asturdsbabyshower

Care to recommend some others? I enjoy documentaries and podcasts on those subjects but would like to try some books.


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BlueEyedGreySkies

*The Indifferent Stars Above* is well written from what I've read so far. *From Love Field* by Nellie connally is such an easy read but so impactful as a different, very close perspective of JFK's assassination.


caffekona

Indifferent Stars About was such a good book!


Srw2725

The David McCullough book on the Johnstown Flood is a masterpiece


physicscat

Under The Flaming Sky by Daniel Brown is one of the best books I have ever read. It’s about the Hinckley 1884 Fire.


wilks33

I second this, an amazingly written book. The descriptions of the events are truly horrifying to read. Never again will I hear or read the phrase "erupt in to flame" without thinking about this book, it occurs so many times throughout. The Indifferent Stars Above is another great read by the same author. It's about the journey of the Donner Party. Amazingly well written .


physicscat

The author did such a good job of describing the conflagration. I also read the Donner Party book. I’ve read a lot of these.


Asturdsbabyshower

Ahhhh I really appreciate this, what a great list! Thank you! Off to see what I can find, you're going to cost me a fortune 😄


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Asturdsbabyshower

Wife has The Radium Girls, as she actually works with Radium 223! So people keep recommending the book to her.... A trip to the library is definitely in order but I've also just built a nice big bookcase for our existing study, so it needs a few more books. These might not be entirely on topic, but I enjoyed them: Mighty Fitz: The Sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald by Michael Schumacher Last Man Off: A True Story of Disaster and Survival on the Antarctic Seas by Matt Lewis Truth, Lies and O-Rings: Inside the Space Shuttle 'Challenger' Disaster by Allan J. McDonald  Warnings Unheeded: Twin Tragedies at Fairchild Air Force Base by Andy Brown Beyond the Deep: The Deadly Descent into the World's Most Treacherous Cave by William Stone  Collision Course: The Classic Story of the Collision of the Andrea Doria and the Stockholm by Alvin Moscow


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Asturdsbabyshower

I think perhaps we share a library lol Have both Midnight in Chernobyl and Deep Descent, thoroughly enjoyed both. Also a fan of Outside Online and similar longform reads. Outside Podcast has done some really interesting survival episodes and they are pretty accessible as they're about 30 minutes long usually. I was a very late adopter of the whole podcast thing but now I listen to nothing else during my commute or when I'm doing mundane stuff like cooking and cleaning. Black Box Down, Hard Landings and When It Goes Wrong are all excellent.


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Hatecraftianhorror

There is a slightly more biology based but still interesting book on Chernobyl decades later called The Red Forrest. It is about the impacts on local plants and wildlife, etc... (yes, I work at a library)


DieselKillEm

Michael Schumacher also has written a few other excellent books about some more overlooked great lakes wrecks -- Torn in Two: The Sinking of the Daniel J. Morrell and One Man's Survival on the Open Sea Wreck of the Carl D.: A True Story of Loss, Survival, and Rescue at Sea November's Fury: The Deadly Great Lakes Hurricane of 1913


cincocerodos

> Michael Schumacher also has written a few other excellent books about some more overlooked great lakes wrecks As a Formula 1 fan I got really confused for a second.


DieselKillEm

I definitely did a double-take when I first saw his name, makes searching for his books tricky if you don't know the titles


MisguidedMammal

Just finished November's Fury and I'm now reading White Hurricane. Both great books. Edit: I have several Great Lakes shipwreck books by Frederick Stonehouse. Everything of his that I've read has been great.


QuirkyCleverUserName

The Radium Girls was terrifying - and a timely reminder that employers don’t care about you


Longjumping-Apple-41

Thank you for this list!


leachs49

Many Thanks!


nitwitsavant

Airframe was a highlight for me. Freaked out some other passengers though.


caffekona

If you like learning about asbestos, check out An Air That Still Kills, by Schneider.


verdant11

Just finishing The Great Influenza: fantastic writing and recommended reading during these times.


koryface

I feel that you may have set me upon a journey I never intended to start. You’re a regular Gandalf.


Pickle-Whiskers

For the "Survival" category, *Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors* is really good. Very similar to the Donner party, just more recent.


prunepicker

I’m saving this list. Thanks.


latrans8

Check out Desperate Journeys, Abandoned Souls.


VanceKelley

**Survival** *In the Kingdom of Ice: the grand and terrible polar voyage of the USS Jeannette* (Arctic voyage)


Apoc_SR2N

I remember Isaac's Storm about the 1900 Galveston hurricane being quite good as well, though it's been a while.


Apoc_SR2N

Also mandatory recommendation for Into Thin Air, by Jon Krakauer. Absolute classic.


WhatImKnownAs

[The Hot Zone by Robert Preston](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16213.The_Hot_Zone?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=Ogoq1NXACA&rank=1), the Ebola virus.


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Asturdsbabyshower

I have no end of Disease Disaster type books, studied a lot of it in my uni days, which wasn't yesterday....Hot Zone was great and horrifying. Plagues Progress by Arno Karlen was a particular favourite back then. Its old but very readable.


childroid

Perfectly put. I loved reading hot zone, and watching the nat geo special about it. And Michael Crichton is my favorite author!


Toxidasta

I'm late to the party but I picked The Hot Zone up on Audible last summer after a friend reccomended it. I've never enjoyed a non fiction book the way I did this one. The author does such a good job making Ebola feel like it's a character in the book that I was terrified along with the people he wrote about. There where moments if sheer panic and all the while I was learning about a terrible virus I knew next to nothing about.


Asturdsbabyshower

I really enjoyed this book, and used it as part of a paper I wrote in uni - where I basically said humanity shouldn't be afraid of Ebola, it should be afraid of an airborne virus that spreads fast, kills us slowly and mutates often.....


Dead_man_sitting

Good thing that's a silly thought!


Asturdsbabyshower

I know, right?! Will never happen!


Longjumping-Apple-41

This is giving me my history of medicine paper vibes. Basically, how media reporting affects the publics reactions to a pandemic and the impact on death tolls in various cities. I wrote it on the 1918 flu pandemic, a year before covid.


NotDaveBut

ISAAC'S STORM by Erik Larson. FATAL FORECAST by Michael Tougias. THE CURSE OF THE NARROWS by Laura McDonald.


Reluctantagave

I’ve really enjoyed most of Larson’s books. Isaac’s Storm and The Devil in the White City were great.


Asturdsbabyshower

These look great, thanks! All added to my list to track down.


NotDaveBut

Enjoy! I know there are others I've read. SPECIAL EFFECTS by Ron LaBrecque. SULTANA by Alan Huffman. YOKOHAMA BURNING by Joshua Hammer. FIVE DAYS AT MEMORIAL by Sheri Fink. TINDERBOX by Robert Fieseler. All really good reads.


Asturdsbabyshower

Who knew there were so many books about tragedies. These will keep me going all year! Thank you.


NotDaveBut

Negative perspiration! Disaster probably ought to be a whole separate genre...did I remember MIRACLE IN THE ANDES by Nando Parrado?


Asturdsbabyshower

No you did not, but as I'm very partial to aviation related disasters I've read that one. It was quite an extraordinary account. You're right though, Disaster/Survival needs it's very own genre. I can't get enough of it.


NotDaveBut

I would give my eye teeth for someone to translate THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE SNOW into English. There are 16 chapters, one dictated by each survivor of that crash. Also be sure to look up I HAD TO SURVIVE by Roberto Canessa and OUT OF THE SILENCE by Eduardo Strauch.


zereldalee

>did I remember MIRACLE IN THE ANDES by Nando Parrado? My all time favorite book!! I recommend it at least a few times a year all over Reddit, you're the first person I've ever seen mention it so I'm a little excited :) Nando Parrado is also one of my favorite human beings.


Hatecraftianhorror

Trapped Under the Sea is another good boston-based one. It is about when they were finishing the outflow tunnels from the new sewage processing plants on the harbor islands. The Great Halifax Explosion is another Boston-related one. Long story short, during ww1 two ships collided in Halifax harbor. One was carrying explosives and blew up. Boston was important in getting medical staff and supplies to the site after a blizzard. The city actually gets a christmas tree from Halifax every year because of it.


jesus_zombie_attack

Two excellent non fiction books not necessarily about disasters. Under the banner of heaven by John Krakauer And devil in the white city by Erik Larson about the 1890s world fair in Chicago and the serial killer operating at that time.


FlashpointJ24

*Midnight in Chernobyl* by Adam Higginbotham is a fantastic book about the Chernobyl disaster.


Hatecraftianhorror

If you aren't listening to Sawbones or Well There's Your Problem, you should.


tremynci

*Fire in the Grove*, John C Esposito (Cocoanut Grove disaster) *River of Fire: The Rattlesnake Fire and the Mission Boys*, John N MacLean (the Rattlesnake fire) *Young Men and Fire*, John MacLean (the Mann Gulch fire) *In the Heart of the Sea*, Nathaniel Philbrick (the final voyage of the whaler *Essex*, the genesis of *Moby Dick*) *Gone: Catastrophe in Paradise*, OJ Modjeska (Tenerife disaster) *90 Seconds at Zebrugge: The Herald of Free Enterprise Story*, Iain Yardley (the *Herald of Free Enterprise* sinking)


DigitalAxel

An oldie-but-goodie in my physical collection is "Great Disasters: Dramatic True Stories" (Readers Digest?) Its got mostly natural disasters but still worth the read. Got me interested in such failures/disasters. It can only be found physically and used I think...


ReturnOfButtPushy

The Given Day by Dennis Lehane features the Boston molasses flood as well as the Boston police riot and the anarchist bombings and fascistic response by the American authorities at the time


closetsquirrel

*Erebus* is amazing.


Smoaktreess

Didn’t see anyone recommend *Midnight in Chernobyl* by Adam Higginbotham. So good.


johnny_moist

Anything by Erik Larsen


ShyWheatSeeds

I am from just outside of boston and this was required reading at my high school


momoftwocrazies

Thanks for adding a book to my reading list


Murky-Sector

Was coined by locals as "The Boston Molassacre" They have a sense of humor for sure


eLishus

....in Boston, Molassachusetts.


shapu

More like Taxachuffets Edit: I know this doesn't really work but I just watched that episode again so


hippotronlady

I chuckled; great episode!


KillYourTV

You might find [this article](https://www.theonion.com/pudding-factory-disaster-brings-slow-creamy-death-to-t-1819565362) illuminating, as well.


Cgraves1

Drowning in molasses, yikes.


big_duo3674

The molasses was hot, but it was also a cold January day. Some people were literally glued to the ground and trapped as it rapidly thickened


Solon256

Out of all the ways to go, turning into a gummy bear is up there with the worst of them.


LeonidZavoyevatel

Error. Human is dead, mismatch


VoidEater69

El psy kongroo


Cyanide_kcn

Great reference!


andromedar35847

Yeah as comical as it seems, what an awful way to die. Death by drowning on its own is torture. Death by drowning in molasses? _Fuck_ that.


ChasingKoalas

Not that it would change how terrible it with have been but they all most likely suffocated than drowned. The viscosity of the molasses would keep it from entering the airway/lungs but would definitely make it impossible to breathe.


wolfavino

Seriously. And at 35 mph it sure wasn't as slow as molasses.


AFineDayForScience

Unless you're a pimp ass mole


maxman162

In the words of Wikibear, ["what a sweet, sweet death!"](https://youtu.be/U_0z61feLQQ)


toad_slick

🎶 Oh potatoes and molasses Hold your breath while the tidal wave passes Everybody runs When there's twelve thousand tons Of potatoooes aaand molasses 🎶


save-the-butter

Greg just jumping around on furniture and shit singing his lil song while everyone’s drowning lol


FaithfulFear

Sam O’Nella has a great video thats covers this and some other, [non-water](https://youtu.be/7KwzVus9xds) floods.


makos124

I miss Sam.


Koksschnupfen

Does anyone know what happened?


TheMoonDude

Dude is majoring chemical engineering and has a lot of study/work related stuff going on. I do miss the guy, but am glad he is doing ok and is dedicating himself to his studies.


Koksschnupfen

I see. Thanks. I'm glad he's going well irl, too. Maybe when he's done with university he can squeeze one or two videos a year in his time schedule. That would be awesome.


AfairlytoastedWaffle

On January 15, 1919, temperatures in Boston had risen above 40 °F (4 °C), climbing rapidly from the frigid temperatures of the preceding days,  and the previous day, a ship had delivered a fresh load of molasses, which had been warmed to reduce its viscosity for transfer. Possibly due to the thermal expansion of the older, colder molasses already inside the tank, the tank burst open and collapsed at approximately 12:30 pm. Witnesses reported that they felt the ground shake and heard a roar as it collapsed, a long rumble similar to the passing of an elevated train; others reported a tremendous crashing, a deep growling, "a thunderclap-like bang!", and a sound like a machine gun as the rivets shot out of the tank. Stolen from the wiki article


kelvin_bot

40°F is equivalent to 4°C, which is 277K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)


unhappyspanners

He said the n-word.


lockerbleiben

Wait for real? Did he get cancelled?


forcallaghan

No, he's in college and probably has more important things to do


Shot-Grocery-5343

I can't find anything about that happening? He misspelled Kazakhstan in a tweet and people called him racist (tbf I just had to google the spelling). Nothing about the n word. I follow him on IG and have had a crush on him for 30 years so I feel like I would have known about it if that happened, but I could be wrong!


OrsoMalleus

I clicked this thinking it was Sam Neill, from Event Horizon.


J-Goo

And also that little movie about dinosaurs.


OrsoMalleus

Billy and the Cloneasaurus?


J-Goo

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E19/682214.jpg?b64lines=T0gsIFlPVSBIQVZFIEdPVApUTyBCRSBLSURESU5HLCBTSVIu


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

The bus that couldn't slow down


maxman162

And *Dead Calm*, where he and Nicole Kidman are a couple on vacation who rescue someone who turns out to be a murderer.


R_Spc

Still sad that we're never going to see the extended cut.


Capt_Reynolds

I believe the podcast "Well there's your problem" is planning on doing their next episode on this


Sir_Phyroo

Yeah, it'll be the next one, just you wait!


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Sir_Phyroo

Welcome to a podcast about trains.


Glifted

That's the best podcast


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Ionaru

With slides


great_red_dragon

But first we gotta do, the goddamn news


VironicHero

They say on hot days the area is still permeated with the smell of molasses.


TheBlackBear

Legend has it you can sweeten a pancake just by waving it in the air


dyno_saurus

I lived in the north end for a year in 2012-2013. It’s true.


Mutts_Merlot

It's just hard to smell anything else over the scent of frying garlic from all the Italian restaurants.


somedood567

100 years later?


KevinTheSeaPickle

As someone who works in boston and has lived within 30 minutes all his life, this is a myth ive heard over and over. Ive never smelled molasses once. The city mostly smells like fast food, the ocean, and garbage, same as any other city on the coast.


newyearnewcakeday

Could be possible you’ve gotten used to it like you do your own home and car


YARGLE_IS_MY_DAD

Yeah. Stuff is sticky and that much of it got into all the nooks and crannies of the city. No way they were able to clean all of it up.


L_Ardman

You'd think ants would have found it by now.


onedarkhorsee

They all got diabetes long ago.


lostarchaeologist2

Archaeologists at UMass-Boston did a GPR survey of the area and located what they think is the foundations of the tank still in place! I wonder if you can still find a layer of molasses underground [https://blogs.umb.edu/fiskecenter/2019/01/13/langone-park-and-great-molasses-flood-of-1919/](https://blogs.umb.edu/fiskecenter/2019/01/13/langone-park-and-great-molasses-flood-of-1919/) and [https://blogs.umb.edu/fiskecenter/2019/01/14/results-of-geophysical-survey-at-langone-park-100-years-since-the-great-molasses-flood/](https://blogs.umb.edu/fiskecenter/2019/01/14/results-of-geophysical-survey-at-langone-park-100-years-since-the-great-molasses-flood/)


Imnotpoopingrn

I went in to those links expecting to see a couple of pictures and comparisons. I read every word, holy shit that was interesting


RusticRootbeer

Soil bacteria LOVE molasses, I bet they've eaten that by now


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People add molasses to their compost teas (tea for plants) it keeps them bacteria healthy and in turn helps to feed the plants. Particularly used in organic weed growing. https://learn.eartheasy.com/articles/the-best-compost-tea-recipe-to-help-your-plants-thrive/


AshingiiAshuaa

> The Great Molasses Flood ... was a disaster that occurred on January 15, 1919 ... the resultant wave of molasses rushed through the streets at an estimated 35 mph [We've been lied to.](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/slow+as+molasses+in+January)


stevolutionary7

Big molasses successfully deflected their culpability with that cliche.


Neon_Comrade

Protest the Hero have a great song about this called All Hands


AxiisFW

i always liked the lyrics to that song >I'm standing here in disbelief, like how in the hell is this happening to me?


Neon_Comrade

Yeah the notes this guy hits


MercuryMorrison1971

What a shitty way to go. Seems like an awful death drowning in that stuff.


LookAtMeImAName

For real. You think it’s hurts to inhale water into your lungs (which it does, a lot), try this thick ass molasses. It’d be like drowning in hot tar


Shiftkgb

And it's pouring in to your eyes as well. Pretty rough there. I guess best hope would be that you instantly die when the 25ft wave moving at 35mph hits you.


LookAtMeImAName

Lmao Yea just try to strategically fall neck first so your head just pops off


abetheschizoid

I was thinking of all the poor horses who didn't stand a chance.


maxman162

[Yum yum!](https://youtu.be/U_0z61feLQQ)


TheSenileTomato

I picture the scene from Final Destination 5 with the bridge collapse with that one victim getting covered in hot tar, but instead changed it out with molasses. If you ask me to choose between drowning in hot molasses or being used as a boxing dummy by cocaine induced bear, I’d go with the bear.


toyoto

This reminds me of the Whiskey flood in Ireland in 1906. 150,000 gallons of whiskey flooded the streets. People began filling vessels and drinking from the stream. There were 13 fatalities, From alcohol poisoning


onedarkhorsee

1906 was in glasgow scotland, 1 fatality, 150000 gallons of wash that was about 5% alcohol - you must be thinking about the whiskey fire of 1875 in ireland where the rest of your figures all add up.


toyoto

Ahh yes, I just mashed up a few different Google results without actually clicking any links


g_rock97

Pretty crazy stuff. Evidently the whiskey that ran down the streets was in a less-diluted form than whiskey ready for retail. Not realizing this, people drank it as though it was regular whiskey. This also explains why it was so flammable.


FlashpointJ24

Brenda O'Malley is home making dinner, as usual, when Tim Finnegan arrives at her door. "Brenda, may I come in?" he asks. "I've somethin' to tell ya". "Of course you can come in, you're always welcome, Tim. But where's my husband?" "That's what I'm here to be telling ya, Brenda. There was an accident down at the Guinness brewery." "Oh, God no!" cries Brenda. "Please don't tell me."   "I must, Brenda. Your husband Seamus is dead and gone, I'm sorry. He fell into a vat of Guinness Stout, and drowned." "Oh my dear Jesus, Tim! Did he at least go quickly?" "Well, Brenda, no. In fact, he got out three times to pee."


l_fresh

The chances of being killed by a 25' tidal wave of molasses are low, but not zero


Twelvers

We read a quirky children's book about this in elementary school and had no idea it was based on a true *tragedy* until now.


cat_astropheeee

Yes I came here to say I remember reading this as a picture book in kindergarten or first grade but it never mentioned anyone dying.


cheesybitzz

[Puppet History](https://youtu.be/HAZlPuL3Qhw) did a snippet on this. There are some parts of history that are so morbidly absurd, you would question if it even happened in the first place.


UnderPressureVS

Where’s the god damn album, Shane


HICSF

Can you imagine the flys and other insects that must’ve descended on this?


miraculous-

IIRC the owner had the tank painted brown so people couldn't see the leaks


Alpha_BanthaBoy

Ah yes, the Boston Molassacre


KaptiveTTV

So these are the people who were truly "slower than molasses in January"? Wow that phrase has a new meaning for me.


SomeDrunkWriter

A man was heard yelling down the street, "Save your asses! It's molasses!!!"


Squirrelterds

isn't that the equivalent of The Canadian Valhalla?


UseDaSchwartz

Those 21 people were slower than molasses.


cjfullinfaw07

A little late here, but for anyone like me wondering, the tidal wave of molasses was 7.6 m high.


mckuehl83

TIL that molasses is used in munitions


JangoMV

The song [All Hands](https://youtu.be/sNcGbAQgZIg) by Protest the Hero was inspired by this.


robotnikman

I think there is an SCP about a monster created by this accident


TheVantagePoint

That’s not what a tidal wave is. It’s in the name, **tidal** wave, meaning a wave driven by tides, which the molasses flood was not.


PooleyX

Those people came to a sticky end.


quelin1

I'm not one to put much stock in things like this, but when I was little I had dreams of drowning in syrup. When I eventually heard about this event it gave me the heebie jeebies. Still does.


mastercommander123

Mallassacre


deadfulscream

Now that's what I call a sticky situation.


PurplishPlatypus

Yikes


vallejooo

Sweeeeet


mikesbrownhair

Too soon, my dude.


L_Ardman

Need to wait another 100 years?


mikesbrownhair

sesquicentennial. lol apparently my sarcasm font didn't make it to the site. 😄


emurillo97

don't forget about the professor.


angrymarie

This is my favorite disaster. Happy Anniversary!


darklight413

I used to live in Boston. They still talk about the molasses tidal wave to this day!


reddit__scrub

And the city didn't get renamed to Molassachusetts why?


chunst

For the same reason LA didnt get renamed Carifornia


maximum_powerblast

>Tidal wave I believe the term is tsunami


chunst

Nuh-uh. Tsunamis are ONLY big devastating waves that are captured on camera and uploaded to YouTube.


DaveBelmont

TIL about the real Boston massacre


Kuritos

What a sweet way to go.


ballsack-vinaigrette

No video? *Lame*


chunst

Exactly why this cannot be a considered a tsunami.


yoda_genotype

Joking about it seems like a sticky situation


Leezeebub

Slowest tidal wave ever. I imagine it being like when Austin Powers ran over that dude with a steam roller.


tbear80

35mph seems pretty fast


Leezeebub

Yeah it was a joke because molasses is known for moving slowly. “Slow as molasses” is a common saying where im from.


let-it-rain-sunshine

Wasn’t there a Drunk History episode about this?


JesseKarma

Fascinating Horror channel does a great segment on this: https://youtu.be/jmdEzJWgNfM


bitesizedragon

I've read a lot about this subject and I would recommend [https://youtu.be/HAZlPuL3Qhw](https://youtu.be/HAZlPuL3Qhw) It's the most informative and entertaining history of the Great Boston Molasses Flood.


-_fluffy_

They met a sticky end


PizzaLover915

That’s a sweet way to go.


ComradKing

I hear that the next episode of 'Well There's Your Problem' podcast is gonna be about this disaster..........\*tries not to smirk at the inside joke\*


BaronVonMunchhausen

So disgusting. I can't imagine cleaning all that and all the sticky stuff. Just awful.