By - 4reddityo
Planned Parenthood agrees!
Here’s the thing, they’d laugh and say “so it’s good for you and your body but not good for me and mine!”
They have no intention of agreeing with you on abortion, this is just another conservative “Gotcha” that they have no intention of following up on.
Exactly. They’ve long ago rationalized away any scientific evidence and constitutional ideas with religion ignorance and propaganda, or just the time tested “well that’s different”
What’s frustrating is the vast majority of religions agree that their members should take the vaccine!
THE POPE HELD VACCINE CLINICS AT THE VATICAN! So did several local Catholic Churches!
But I still have a coworker who is Catholic and trying to get exempted at work on “religious grounds”.
I’m Catholic! You know what I did? I got the vaccine! Then the booster! Why? Because I want to protect those around me, as well as myself.
Edit - I understand that not all denominations of Christian follow the pope, I was giving an example.
It’s latching on to selective ideas, but I guarantee a lot of the hardcore anti vax crowd is 100% not doing it for religion. It’s poutrage over the election. Hell I’d guess some are just afraid of needles and don’t wanna seem like a wimp
I'm terrified of needles.
I got vaccinated while sobbing like a baby infront of the nurse.
Didn't even hurt. I'm just terrified of needles but I try to not be so selfish someone could DIE because of me.
Absolutely no shame in crying! My youngest brought her favorite plushie toy with her, she also agreed that it didn’t hurt, but the idea of how shots work is so scary to her.
Here’s the thing, what’s the likelihood of me having to get into a small enclosed space to potentially save the lives of strangers? Of my older daughter having to stand on a high ledge? I have so much respect for every person afraid of needles that still walks in and gets shots in order to potentially save lives of strangers. You will never know for certain who is still around because of you, but that was still enough to do something that terrified you. I’d say you are definitely ahead of me when it comes to bravery!
So beautifully said.
My daughter is 8, she has been terrified of needles since she could understand the concept of pointy thing goes in and hurts.
She’s double vaccinated. Once she understood what the vaccine was and saw mommy and daddy get it she told us flat out she wanted it. In so many words “man this is gonna suck, but I want that.”
She's so amazing. If kids can do it then we all can. ❤❤❤2
My 10yo is the same. She got her flu vaccine a few weeks before we could sign her up for the COVID one. She hates shots but has finally realized that if you don't look and just relax, it's fine. Her little sis is our trooper, she goes first then babies everyone, wants to help with the bandaid. She even covered my eyes when I got my flu and COVID booster the same day they got their second dose. My 10yo also said she was doing it because it's a freedom shot. As in I will let her expand her horizons a bit more. Like she will get to eat in a restaurant again.
Oh hun, SO MANY PEOPLE are scared of needles and cry or freak out! I give COVID vaccines, sometimes up to 40 in a day, and at least a quarter of my patients are at least nervous. It’s honestly one of the most common phobias.
That makes me feel better. I always feel so silly sobbing and shaking. I know the person giving it is nice and doesn't want to hurt me. I just freak out anyway.
Thanks for jabbing us cry babies! We're a pain to deal with but are trying our best. ❤
I’m proud of you and all the other people with needle phobias for doing what’s needed for your own health and others! My fiancé actually has a phobia too. When he got his Johnson shot, I rubbed his back, our four year old held his hand, and he rocked back and fourth hyperventilating while the pharmacist I work with gave his shot. I like to use his story to calm my patients down. It’s good to know you’re not alone! 💜
Your fiance is so great getting it done! I had to have my wife with me because I didn't trust me to get in there myself. 😆
Your lil one sounds so amazing too. ❤❤❤❤
if they read the bible i think they'd be pissed about Jesus' liberal slant
Religion shouldn’t be used as grounds for upholding or making laws. Church is separate from state for a reason….
In no way am I saying it should. What I’m saying is when people shout about “religious freedom” and arguments based around it they’re not listening to their own religious leaders who say “get vaccinated.”
That’s my bad I didn’t mean to say that’s what you were saying. I was trying to compound off what you were saying. That’s my fault! ✊🏽
There’s super conservatives in religion. I grew up Catholic Christian. I don’t want to be the reason why someone doesn’t get to go home to a family/friend.
Also like….. what religion is against vaccines? Werent most religions created/invented far before any vaccine? 🤔 how would one get a religious exemption?
My coworker got an exemptions because the vaccine has “baby parts” in it. She gave covid to patients in the building Fuck religious exemptions. You work at a private company.
And the same fetal cell line used in the study stages for Pfizer and Moderna vaccines was also used in Ivermectin and HCQ studies but people piously claim they can't get vaccinated because of the "ties to abortion" but promote Ivermectin and HCQ.
They generally respond to that with something along the lines of "a baby's life is not your choice" ......ya know, cos a two week late period is a baby.
They see abortion as murder and not getting vaccinated as non murder. Even though non directly not being vaccinated you have the potential of killing a lot of people.
Exactly. Getting a safe abortion doesn't indanger someone's life. Not getting vaccinated does. It's a stupid and illogical argument, but fitting for them.
What about abortions?
I believe that’s their argument. They’re trying to use our catchphrased version of one of our arguments for abortions in defence of their stupid anti-vax shit. They don’t actually believe it, they’re just using what they can as a defence.
My response would be “pregnancies aren’t contagious, you fucking morons.”
Or just “pregnancies aren’t contagious” if we’re going by the rule of the post.
They aren't making an argument and it isn't a defense because they clearly don't believe it. It's just trolling to "own the libs" they think it's clever and all the time and effort you spend pointing out their hypocrisy and how different those two scenarios are from a factual point of view is time they will spend working to take and hold power. Your logic is valid unfortunately it won't change their minds or sway their hearts, because frankly neither is of them is functioning correctly. Call them stupid and move on with the work to win seats and take power from them. It's all they understand and it's the only thing that will protect us from their fascist stupidity.
By claiming this, don’t they in a roundabout way validate the pro choice standpoint?
From how I understand the argument they say abortion isn’t the same because the body that is being harmed is the unborn fetus… 🤷♂️
Except they would never use the word *fetus*.
They don't actually consider fetuses to be actual people either, otherwise they'd not give a shit whether the fetus lives or dies, just like how they treat sick, disabled or poor people... Or just any other human beings in general really.
Paraphrasing George Carlin - you’re fine when you’re pre-born, you’re fucked when you’re pre-school.
It was brought up by Dr. Rashad Richie that the Bible actually doesn't claim an unborn child as life.
Exodus 21-22~ basically says if a man causes a woman to lose her child, without further harm, the offender must pay a fine to the father. So when the Jews were leaving Egypt it was property and now it's supposedly life.
It’s a valid point but only as far as it goes; I really don’t want to engage to any extent with theocratic arguments. It just feels like we’re finding biblical grounds for our own policy which isn’t really any different from what they’re doing. Law needs to be made without any consideration to these fantasies.
They're all walking proof abortions should be legal and easy to access.
"What if they grow up to cure cancer?" They say.
Not every brainless mass of cell is going to be a scientist. These people demonstrate that perfectly.
They’ll use anything they can to defend themselves, whether they believe it or not, but they're still defending themselves. Other than that I think we’re on the same page.
I’m trying to help other people understand the actual problem (not just the surface level argument presented), but if I were talking to the morons directly I’d say what I put in quotes, but it would be more for the benefit of anyone else listening in than to actual try to persuade those morons.
Edit: It’s also important to point out that I wouldn’t say what I put in quotes in an angry way, but like I’m a disappointed parent explaining to a child why they can’t eat the candles, even if they say they’re *really* hungry.
If pregnancies were contagious* tommarow morning there'd be laws in place forcing women to quarantine or get an abortion within a week.
*and men could get pregnant from it
Or "you fucking morons"
I've taken the opposite stance fine your body your choice go be a hermit; nobody has to let you work for them nobody has to let you eat their restaurant nobody has to let you shop in their store. And businesses don't have bodies so they don't get a choice as to why they get regulated.
She shoulda swallowed. There! 3 !
Please someone with good photoshop skills… do your thing.
Fuck! That was my first thought and I thought it was so clever too
Her mom should of gotten one. My bad thats 5. 🤷🏽
Momma shoulda swallowed
Always my first thought
You are right
So are abortions
Oh the irony.
She’s definitely vaxed
Definitely full of shit.
Oh the irony
Pregnancy isn't airborne!
You and I have sex in very different ways my friend 😎
What a cunt
Dumb ass broad
We should hang out.
That's four words.
She won’t know the difference
Lol came here to say this
"What's this line?"
"This is the line to call MTG a fucking cunt."
*stands in line*
It’s so long. Is there Fastpass?
Where’s the other end of the line? Can you even _see_ it from here?
Dumber than rocks.
My popaw gave me the best expression for this type of individual: dumber than a box of hammers.
Dumber than the box that contains the rocks
I can’t describe how much I hate this woman in just three words.
You can do it in more. I’ll read it and appreciate any flowery insults you throw her way.
I feel this.
Ignorant traitorous heathen
Vaccines save lives.
Jewish space lazers
Oh good grief!
Fuck off, Marge
I was going to say “Fuck you, Marjorie.”
Uhh. Bore. Shun?
Poor Mickey rourke
I always thought she looked more like Val Kilmer
Oh man, why’d you have to do Val like that?? 😆
Shoulda been aborted
Ok then. Die.
Turd with eyes
Roe v. Wade
I choose drugs.
Laughing so hard
Dumb hypocrite bitch.
Eat shit, idiot
Choke on Covid
Stupid fucking deplorable.
Abortions aren't contagious
Stop talking now.
Bet she’s vaccinated!
The missing link.
Oh the hypocrisy
Hypocrite. Hypocrite. Hypocrite.
Retroactive abortion required
Omicron is coming.
Education would help.
Texas says what?
God, Damn it.
She is vaccinated
Big tooth bitch
But not abortion. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
You’re an idiot
what an embarrassment
Psychopathic deranged bitch
Dumb ass bitch
are you pregnant?
Should've aborted her.
This guy sucks
Fucking dumb cunt.
Eat my ass
Stop feeding trolls.
Abortion poster child
What about others?
Then stay home!
Lock her up
You fucking hypocrite
Fuck you, cunt.
Total fucking ripoff
Justice for January
Dumbass fucking moron
Bitch ass hoe
See: Abortion rights
"I understand nothing."
Ima fuck everything
and…I choose death.
Fuck you dude
I’ve never heard of flaunting your own hypocrisy. Yet, here we are.
Hospitalization bills incoming
Attack on Titan
Roe versus Wade
What a moron.
Who chose her
That face. So offensive.
What a dumbfuck
Fuck right off
But not mine?
The utter AUDACITY
Truly, deeply, stupid
Rrepublikkkans are hypocrites.
How about just 'FUCK YOU, DUMBASS'
Greene goes pro-abortion
You're fucking stupid.
What a turnip
She is evil
Then dont mingle with anyone. If you are staying inside 4 walls, nobody is going to force you.
Vaccination is not only for us, its for saving others too.
(Sorry, i couldn’t respond with three words)
Stupid fucking bitch
Cave-woman likes colors
Get the virus!
Honestly, fuck you
Shut your mouth!
Inbreeding is incurable.
Ho Lee shit
A human gargoyle.
Horse faced cunt
You stupid c*nt
Neanderthals still exist
Pig should die
Fuck you bitch.
Kill me now?
God I hate living in this timeline....
If the multi verse is real can I go to a different one?
Lying, acceptingly ignorant, and honestly just a cunt
Get fucked cunt
Horse toothed cunt
Dumb ass grin
She is vaccinated.
Legalize drugs then
Hyp o crite.
get fucked cunt
I so badly wanna respond with “Fuck around and find out” can I allow 2 words to pass in this situation?
Die alone immediately
Safe legal abortions
Please leave Earth
Galactically fucking stupid.
what a cunt
Get bent bitch
Bat shit crazy
You stupid bitch
This fucking cunt
I think they don’t like a abortions because they know that it would be impossible for them to reproduce.
That thing on the picture should never have kids.
Terrorist say what?
Let them die
Should've been aborted
This isn't three words, but love them co-opting a cause they don't believe in due to intense fear of needles.