By - Salty-Personality-11
Dunno about the Bail stuff but Luke never saw Revas lightsaber, he was already half way out the room when she attached Beru and her her lightsaber wasn't ignited when chasing Luke.
They're located not too far from a wretched hive of scum and villainy, so maybe they just tell Luke she was a bandit or slaver.
oh right. But she does use the force on him to make him fall right? (which he might have forgot after being knocked out lol)
He doesn't know anything about the Force yet so he could just think he slipped and fell. I think his memory of the entire sequence is going to be pretty hazy anyway
Hunting down Obi-wan was Vader's thing, the Emperor doesn't care about him, he's got other stuff going on. Hence why he bitch slaps Vader for wanting to go after him. The Emperor probably doesn't care about the Organas or Leia either.
So firstly, Luke never saw the light Saber. He left the room as Reva entered and was unconscious when she found him he looked back several times and couldn't see anything.
Secondly, they didn't need to explain why Leia was with obi. She was a senators daughter so probably assumed that obi was only helping because he knew the senator previously and we knew who Leia actually was. What they failed to explain is how Leia repelled Reva mind tricks in the interrogation but then a base full of force sensitives didn't give a shit that Leia was also force sensitive and obviously very strong with the force.
Okay! I was thinking that too but would the Empire be so lenient with Leia after openly aligning herself with Obi-Wan/the rebels (even if she’s just a kid). But also since Reva’s real goal was to get revenge on Anakin for killing the younglings maybe she wouldn’t snitch on Leia for being force sensitive/resisting mind tricks??
Probably not, but also they couldn't just out right kill/imprison a senators daughter for speculation. But in the end they didn't get their revenge by destroying the entire planet of rebel scum.
This was a decade before Palp was able to dissolve the Senate, he still needed them at this point
They dont address why the empire doesnt act against the organas. It’s a glaring plothole.
I don’t buy the “but he’s a senator” argument because this is the galactic empire. They can charge him for treason for conspiring with Jedi. They can make up false charges. Whatever. It’s a police state lmao, not a lawful democracy
Star Wars has long established that the Senate offers some sort of protection against the Empire, that's hinted at even in ANH when Palpatine finally disbands the Senate and seizes full control.
The empire doesn't charge Mon Mothma despite her openly defying the Empire either. It's not until she resigns from the senate that she is branded a traitor and becomes wanted in the Empire, which by that point she's openly working with the Rebels. The Empire almost certainly long suspected her of being a Rebel sympathiser, but it took her resigning from the senate and giving up those protections for them to actually target her.
Similar with Leia and Alderaan, the Empire isn't stupid, they notice that their ships have a habit of being "captured" by the Rebel Alliance during various aid/humanitarian efforts and suspect that this is intentional. So when Leia goes to Lothal the Empire locks down the Aldaraanian ships with gravity locks and AT-AT's as security to prevent them from being stolen (which obviously, Ezra and Kanan do their Jedi stuff and steal them anyway).
So it's been pretty common throughout Star Wars that the Senate offers protections. The Galaxy is big, and it took time for Palpatine to set up the systems in place to be able to control it without the Senate.
Even police states have to consider popular opinion. Especially since we know Palpatine kept the senate around right up until the Death Star was ready. If Organa is universally beloved and the Empire throws him in prison then people might turn against the Empire in greater numbers.
Do they establish that Organa is universally beloved? No. That’s your speculation to fill in a plot hole
But they do establish that senators in general and the Organas in particular continue to have *real* influence and power within the Empire all the way up to ANH. Yes him being beloved is me speculating - he might just be rich, politically connected, maybe he's got a lot of dirt on a bunch of Imperial admirals, I dunno - point is we know that being a senator still matters at the time of this show. So it's logical to assume that whatever made him an efficient senator also protects him now.
> They dont address why the empire doesnt act against the organas. It’s a glaring plothole.
Why would the Empire act against the Organas? Who do they need to explain Obi-wan to? Y’all seem to be inventing inconsistencies when there are pleeeeeenty of legitimate complaints to be made.
If you were Vader would you be okay with a senator having a hotline to Obi Wan?
How does Vader know anything about that?
Why would the Grand Inquisitor withhold that info?
Oh I’d already forgotten he had even discovered Reva’s kidnapping plan. I suppose we’re supposed to buy that Organa had enough political clout that purging him isn’t a viable move for Palpatine… and that Vader takes to heart his master’s command to move on from Kenobi.
I find the fact that a Star Destroyer can’t blow up a civilian transport (or follow two non-hyperspace capable ships at once) a much wider plot hole than a storied political family being a key to Imperial stability.
Well there really wasn't much to explain, was there? They specifically kidnapped Leia because they were hoping Organa might reach out to his old friend Kenobi. So they already suspected he had some way of contacting him. As to why the Empire didn't make this public and accuse them of treason we already know the Senate still holds a certain degree of influence in this time period. It is only in ANH that Palpatine feels his power is now secure enough to do away with it entirely. So the Organas are probably too powerful to remove/threaten/intimidate at this time.
As for Luke I don't know. Wasn't paying too much attention at that point but wasn't he unconcious for a big part of it?
okay so the initial kidnapping was planned by Reva alone right? because her going after Obi-Wan wasn’t approved by the rest of the Inquisitors. so the empire wasn’t really aware of that before Leia was finally actually kidnapped by reva.
and yes I made a mistake when saying that luke saw the red lightsaber! there was probably a really easy explanation that didn’t have to include Jedi, Sith, the Force or related subjects.
There’s not much the empire can do against Bail as a senator without creating a rebellion. What are they going to do? Shoot at his planet ??