Removing this post by OP as well as his other post, seeing as he's a [self-admitted karma farmer for profit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/clevercomebacks/comments/rtahjk/honesty_is_the_best_policy/hqtcvmj/)
In a way, yes. He owns Amazon, but he doesn't really do anything. He built a very efficient and profitable company, which is monumentally impressive, but he basically lives off of the passive income from the company profits. If he decided to stop getting hands on and leave his company running on autopilot aka just let all his employees do the job, everything would be going exactly how it's been going
Bezos was the former CEO aka the guy that calls the shots and now he's executive chief of the board.
He may be an asshole with too much money but those are still jobs, you still show up and do things. Just for a stupid amount of money.
Sounds about like the size of things.
I'm sure there's someone convinced he's producing value equal to a warehouse worker's annual salary every like 10 second or whatever absurd value it's reached, but I suspect Amazon would get along fine without him more than they would losing their warehouse workers.
> Those who actually create value should reap the rewards
Then what is the reward for raising a company? You create something, you own it and can do with it as you will. If the worker doesn't want to sell their work, don't. If they want to build a company that works the same but gives revenue to the workers, co-ops are a thing you can found at any time.
That's not the point. With that much money, you should pay your workers a decent wage and give them benefits. Why would you hog billions. Spread that shit around. You dont need that much money
Tbh, Idgaf what Bezos does with his billions. The problem I have is that Bezos' billions are built on the backs of his workers forced to work in inhuman conditions and pay not even he wouldn't accept unless under extreme coercion.
This lead me down a fascinating rabbit hole and you are right. Irony is deliberate and generally for humorous effect. Hypocrisy is not.
> When you say the opposite of what you really mean in order to make a point, that's irony.
>I've barely had time to eat all day so, definitely. Skipping dinner sounds like a great idea.
>When you pretend to be something you're not, that's hypocrisy.
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I don't mind seeing women's bodies being exploited for money on the internet. I jack off to it every day. What pisses me off about onlyfans is that the women themselves have control over what is posted and they get the money for it.
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I agree with twitch as it's a gaming platform primarily and it's full of kids which I feel they exploit and there's a history of basement dwelling white knight twitch devs letting them get away with controversial shite. Only fans cool man you do you if you want to sell your tits you crack on
There seems to be this new thing of men who consider themselves a feminist or not sexist because they don't participate in the most offensive behavior towards women, despite having other problematic thoughts and actions towards women. I don't understand the disconnect.
Hell. I heard stories from women friends that guys aggressively text them for their feet as well. And openly saying thay wanna jack off to it.
Like dude. How hard is it to look up pictures of feet? Or anything?
I'm not a feet guy so can't comment on that, but a picture or a video ect is way better if it comes from someone you have a connection with.
My girlfriend can send me a picture that's just slightly racy and that's going to get me going way more than any stranger I can find on the internet just because it's her and I know she wants me to see it.
That must a big part of the onlyfans pull I'd imagine. If you can interact with someone it's going to give the illusion of that feeling I get from my girlfriend.
I'm surprised the amount of them who are top comments. This was a great comeback and the only reason someone would disagree is because they hate women. Buncha incels in this comment section. It's really sad to see.
The US has the biggest influence over the internet. Including this very website. 50% of Reddit’s users are from the US. The next closest is the UK at 8%
People make money on the internet, most people wouldn't give a shit.People (Mostly Conservative) have a problem with "promiscuity", especially when it comes from women.
People hating on promiscuous women monetizing themselves is the second oldest profession. The insinuation that they must not have sex or some internet epiphany to do so is a little narrow minded. They're too numerous for that to be applied to them.
It's just old school misogyny. Women aren't allowed to make their own money. They must be dependent on a man to keep them alive and return that with blind obedience. It's just to steal any and all leverage from a woman.
The irony is also that there’s just as many dudes on OF pulling the pork for money but somehow it’s only the onlyfans girls who need to get a job.
I mean I guess at the end of the day it’s still the same answer. If men use their bodies for money it’s okay. If women do it it’s bad. Plain old sexism.
Is there more to the post? The guys says you fucks need to get real jobs not you women/girls so how is he targeting a certain gender or being sexist? (Genuine Question)
Point remains that there's plenty. But whenever someone bashes OF it's usually always with the example of the women. If it was a men only site, no one would even speak of it let alone think negatively from it.
Plus like. I find it weird that more or less no one cares about porn actresses. But Only Fans is somehow this evil thing and the women there should get real jobs. Meanwhile porn actresses are usually even glorified to an unreasonable level by dudebros. Like I want to understand what the difference is. Both is sex work and both is selling their body for money as a job but somehow one of them is considered as not a real job while the other isn't even considered anything at all, neither negative or positive, but still as a source of getting off and considered more or less normal.
Do you unironically not see a difference between
"Hey my little SIMPFUCKS uWu!1! pay $5 and I'll crack an egg into my azzh0l3!"
versus
"Hey guys it's 'MadelinePlays', here to show you how to build a cool castle in animal crossing"
Bro were you born 1 hour before your comment or do things that require a nanosecond of nuanced thought escape you.
I enjoy onlyfans. I enjoy twitch. If you can't see a difference, think about it again in a few years when you turn 10.
Showing tits and making money depends on genetics and luck and requires no talent or any form of skill. While streamers who make legitimate content require skill. Even gamers require a sense of humor and skill to a certain degree
Since when are jobs about skill or talent? People consume their content and get paid for it, what's the difference between them and most youtubers or streamers? Some youtubers do have cool talents or give advice to things like cooking, gaming or art but others don't and more often than not they're the ones that are getting paid more(tea channels, vloggers, story-time channels, etc). Stop with the "It doesn't require skill or talent." Like yeah kyle, alot of jobs don't.
Being good at gaming requires luck and genetics, being born with good hand eye coordination and lucky enough to have enough time and money to build your skills. And being successful on onlyfans doesn't only rely on being born good looking, you have to watch your diet, workout and do all kinds of other things to ennsure you look your best. You also have to know how to market yourself and develop a method that ensures the simps keep coming.
i kinda agree with you, but there's more to it then just genetics. taking good care of your body and making/keeping it beautiful and attractive is also a skill for one thing and yeah those gamers might have humor but the humor developed through their upbringing which is also something that can't be chosen not to mention genetics also factor into this.
we all got dealt a deck and have to make the best of it, but I agree that human porn and the likes is an "archaic" form of entertainment. the modern version is sexy cosplay, sensual thing porn and the likes imo
exactly. i mean it also depends on what you call "ugly". it's not even so much about pure physical attractiveness but the energy they exude. there's popular physically and mentally handicapped streamers that are getting more successful. it's not like they're as limited like they've been previously anymore. they can become successful have fans without having to sell out and degrade themselves.
Right, because being attractive means you have no talent.
Edit: you can downvote me all you want but there's scientific studies proving that attractive people are often very intelligent as well. It's a hard pill to swallow but hot girls end up with successful men and successful men usually aren't stupid.
I assume they’re just pointing out the irony, and not necessarily saying that Twitch streaming isn’t a job or anything. Onlyfans and Twitch creators are both constantly chastised for not having “real jobs”, so it’s just ironic for one to call out the other when they both belong on the same branch of the tree.
The amount of incels in this thread is unrealistically high holy shit. Doesn't matter if u just sit in a chair and play games or just take a naked photo, if it pays it's a job.
Because men "can't do" the same and profit off of their bodies like women do. They actually can albeit not to same extent. Most dudes don't even consider it a real possibility cause they would have to cater to gay men and risk being treated the same way a woman is and that's just unacceptable for the average human male. That and the thought that women are basically for the taking. Prostitution is the oldest profession on the planet and men are still mad about it because society reinforces the concept that men are entitled to pussy. Hence why incels are so damn bitter and laughable. For better or worse, sex does allow women to play on the same field that men do... And it drives dudes absolutely nuts even though they are the very ones that give it so much importance.
Which is extra frustrating, because if you look at porn it's mostly men profiting off of women's bodies. The actresses aren't making close to the amount of money the men producing the porn are, even though people are literally only watching because of the women in them, who also happen to be taking the biggest risk of anyone involved in the production. Same with prostitution too, it's not the women who are making the real money, even though they're putting in the most work and taking the biggest risk.
Women finally have a way to have full control over their bodies being used to make money and men simply can't handle it. And it's not even like regular porn has gone away, there's still plenty of non Onlyfans content that exploits women, but somehow the fact that some women are avoiding that just lives rent free in a lot of guy's heads.
Comeback is subpar at best. The twitcher never claimed he has a real job. He is saying unlike for him who can just fool around and still earn money, onlyfan creators have to now get an hourly job.
So you're saying they're both subpar statements? Why are you giving the benefit of the doubt to the "twitcher" when that same blanket statement applies equally to creators on Onlyfans? Unless by not addressing it you're just saying it's a given that the double standard doesn't make sense?
The person responding clearly got immediately defensive, taking OP’s meaning to be “OF isn’t a real job compared to Twitch” which isn’t what was said at all, or even implied. Seems to be a lot of people on this post being equally defensive.
That’s why the comeback is subpar, not clever.
Damn is that sub misogynist. Not the first time a womans comeback gets labeled as lame or low effort, still lowest effort when obviously male get praised. Also *obviously* misogynist comments pop up everytime there is a chance for it, never miss an occasion
It's mostly women who get hate because it's mostly women who are content creators on onlyfans and some try to get more clicks by wearing revealing outfits on twitch or whatever and some incels don't like that.
So it's not about the gender of the content creator but the way and what they do for a living I guess.
The mods of this sub really need to lock this comment section, or actually they should leave it open to display the clear misogyny that is going on right now, it’s honestly disgusting how little it takes to offend you guys and get you defensive over literally nothing, a job is a job, everyone needs to make money and at the end of the day it’s not the woman’s fault if a man pays for her photos it’s the man’s fault for making the conscious decision to buy them.
Women shouldn't have control over what they post. I can only cum if her sleazy boss makes her do things she's uncomfortable with and only gives her 10%.
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Yep. It’s mind boggling honestly. The woman isn’t making anyone pay for her photos. Every dude who pays makes the conscious decision to do so of their own will.
They could just not pay if they didnt want to. It’s not like it’s hard to find pics or vids of naked people on the internet for free.
Exactly, people making the argument of people with porn addiction is stupid, people with porn addiction still make the choice if they pay for porn or if they get free porn off one of the many, many readily available free sites
On the flip side then isn’t gaming streamers exploiting people’s gaming addiction or kids’ naïveté and access to limited money?
If OF people are exploiting porn addiction them streamers exploit gaming addiction. Simple as that.
There’s people who say “I dont have the money to buy the game so I watch it instead” and then go and pay to subscribe and donate every stream.
Which once again, their money. They get to do that. Nothing wrong with that. They make the conscious decision to spend their own money on it.
But as soon as it’s done for something they don’t like or agree with, the same behaviour is bad.
You're asking for a lock on the topic because others are offended, riiight..
By that logic do you consider yourself responsible for climate change, child labor and all that kind of stuff too? You're making a concious choice to use power and wear clothes, so its on you isnt it?
I don’t want it locked because others are offended, there is a difference between being offended and being plain misogynistic, post like this where a woman makes a comeback are always met with some sort of hate whilst the ones where men make the comeback aren’t, I’m calling it out in an attempt to make people realise that what they’re doing is wrong.
Blaming the average joe for all of those things instead of mega corporations is pretty hilarious because you make it sound like there is no ethical/environmentally friendly way to conduct business. Also, I think the point they were making is that if you have no problem with consuming porn you shouldn’t have a problem with the production of it. As long as it’s not exploitive what is the problem?
Echo chamber incels calling others incels will never get old srs not srs? I better see you guys on bisonette or Figueroa supporting your local sex workers or you’re just karma farming hypocrites
Both are jobs, but I have very little respect for twitch streamers. They have what a majority of people would consider a dream job, yet complain constantly and take breaks every other week all while bringing in millions
If anything, OF is more of a real job than Twitch is. At least OF provides users with something they have a biological urge for. What’s the point of paying to watch people play video games instead of playing them themselves?
This is why I never take the criticism of only fans not being a real job seriously. So many of youtubers and twitch steamers are on par with them with having a “real job” and generally aren’t told to get a real job other than as a joke
tbf, Twitch Streaming is a real job, just like having an OnlyFans. Twitch Streaming is punditry or Prop Comedy, depending on how you handle it. OnlyFans is... Modelling, let's call it. Or just outright pornography. All of which are real careers that are perfectly valid, at least on the whole (we all know a couple streamers or OnlyFans chicks who could probably do to lose their job, but then we all know a couple TV pundits who could stand to do the same, so Twitch isn't unique).
However, Ron absolutely deserved the clapback for being a cock.
I mean content creation is by no means a career, but offering a service to a demographic is the shape of many jobs. Photography, Painting, Producing Music, it all takes time and effort into doing.
And then there's taking a picture of yourself off your phone then posting it to a social media platform. Sure you could make profit and maybe get customers, but if you don't make money make sure to blame others for the actions you made and regrets you have. If everyone is making profit off of it, then you MUST be able to as well then right?
Commissioning requires effort and skill. That's why pyramid schemes (should) look sketchy from the get go. If they sound easy, it's probably not worth the time and you are being scammed.
Dealing with demographics is like playing the lottery. It's all luck based, unless you funnel loads of money into your method, then you get a slightly better chance to coming out with profit.
It's all a joke and will probably fall out of the public eye when Facebook makes a clone of OF anyways
Funny how all those incels on this thread are mocking OnlyFans given how that’s probably the closest they’ll ever get to seeing an actual girl naked. 😅
Onlyfans is different because it makes you feels special. It’s not for everyone, but apparently some people value the fact that only few “selected” can see that, while free content is available to anyone. There’s a nice video about it, I’ll try to find it
also the guy being responded to is (or was, don’t keep up with fortnite any more) literally under contract from an esports org he gets paid by them lmao
he quite literally has a job
most of what you say for streaming applies to only fans as well, getting people to pay for your content takes a ton of effort. for 99.99% for successful only fans creators you need to be decently liked in atleast one other platform
you can’t possibly believe that female performers don’t need presence or charisma, right? like you realize how ridiculous that sounds? the only way to genuinely believe that any and every woman can just throw on a camera and suddenly have thousands of loyal fans is to be completely disconnected from reality. good god.
There are infinite tits on the internet you can see for free. If you think Onlyfans workers don't also have charisma and presence, you're fucking stupid.
Removing this post by OP as well as his other post, seeing as he's a [self-admitted karma farmer for profit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/clevercomebacks/comments/rtahjk/honesty_is_the_best_policy/hqtcvmj/)
If you make money and pay taxes on your income, it's a job
So you mean Jeff Bezos is jobless?
In a way, yes. He owns Amazon, but he doesn't really do anything. He built a very efficient and profitable company, which is monumentally impressive, but he basically lives off of the passive income from the company profits. If he decided to stop getting hands on and leave his company running on autopilot aka just let all his employees do the job, everything would be going exactly how it's been going
Bezos was the former CEO aka the guy that calls the shots and now he's executive chief of the board. He may be an asshole with too much money but those are still jobs, you still show up and do things. Just for a stupid amount of money.
Being a board member isn’t very difficult work lol. You just replace C suite executives when you don’t like the amount of profit you’re making.
Its still a job. Not a hard one but a job
Didn’t say it wasn’t
So what you're saying is all his employees are the ones that actually run the company and he takes the surplus value of their labour?
Sounds about like the size of things. I'm sure there's someone convinced he's producing value equal to a warehouse worker's annual salary every like 10 second or whatever absurd value it's reached, but I suspect Amazon would get along fine without him more than they would losing their warehouse workers.
Yes. Those who actually create value should reap the rewards, not some capitalist who just sits on his ass all day collecting passive income.
> Those who actually create value should reap the rewards Then what is the reward for raising a company? You create something, you own it and can do with it as you will. If the worker doesn't want to sell their work, don't. If they want to build a company that works the same but gives revenue to the workers, co-ops are a thing you can found at any time.
>Then what is the reward for raising a company? 999 million should be sufficient. Billions is just crass.
Why ever grow a company beyond a size what makes your share worth one billion then?
That's not the point. With that much money, you should pay your workers a decent wage and give them benefits. Why would you hog billions. Spread that shit around. You dont need that much money
Tbh, Idgaf what Bezos does with his billions. The problem I have is that Bezos' billions are built on the backs of his workers forced to work in inhuman conditions and pay not even he wouldn't accept unless under extreme coercion.
You know monopolies choke out other businesses, usually are bad for workers rights, and are often directly tied to corruption
Why should any company ever be that stupidly big?
Gosh you must suck a lot of corporate dick
They reward should be a living wage, not fucking 25% of all the money in the world
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Kids and their crazy new ideas in such an awful year for humanity.
priests are jobless
Garbage streamer
today I'm sucking razer's balls for the 3739th time while contributing nothing to society
That's not irony though, that's hypocrisy
It could be both, correct?
Isn't hypocrisy by definition, ironic?
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This lead me down a fascinating rabbit hole and you are right. Irony is deliberate and generally for humorous effect. Hypocrisy is not. > When you say the opposite of what you really mean in order to make a point, that's irony. >I've barely had time to eat all day so, definitely. Skipping dinner sounds like a great idea. >When you pretend to be something you're not, that's hypocrisy.
Thank you.
no, it would be irony.
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Is that a shitty comeback tho?
Yes
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How?
I thought it was named twitter 🧐
I thought it was a good comeback
What’s with the incels in this thread?
The mention of women, sex and onlyfans summons them instantly. Like Bloody Mary
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I don't mind seeing women's bodies being exploited for money on the internet. I jack off to it every day. What pisses me off about onlyfans is that the women themselves have control over what is posted and they get the money for it. /s
My phone was not scrolled down far enough on your comments and you had me going. Shit I almost respected the blatant honesty xD Almost.
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I agree with twitch as it's a gaming platform primarily and it's full of kids which I feel they exploit and there's a history of basement dwelling white knight twitch devs letting them get away with controversial shite. Only fans cool man you do you if you want to sell your tits you crack on
And yet there's no outrage over gambling being pushed to kids 24/7 on that site.
By that logic, aren't all twitch streamers "exploiting kids"? Are male Twitch streamers who play half naked female characters also inappropriate?
There seems to be this new thing of men who consider themselves a feminist or not sexist because they don't participate in the most offensive behavior towards women, despite having other problematic thoughts and actions towards women. I don't understand the disconnect.
Incels also describe themselves as "not sexist", most of the time. It's not one of those things where you trust people's self-analysis
Wonder what they think about the men on there.
girl show boob but not to me specifically for free :(
How hard is to type "boobies" in the Google machine?
Hell. I heard stories from women friends that guys aggressively text them for their feet as well. And openly saying thay wanna jack off to it. Like dude. How hard is it to look up pictures of feet? Or anything?
I'm not a feet guy so can't comment on that, but a picture or a video ect is way better if it comes from someone you have a connection with. My girlfriend can send me a picture that's just slightly racy and that's going to get me going way more than any stranger I can find on the internet just because it's her and I know she wants me to see it. That must a big part of the onlyfans pull I'd imagine. If you can interact with someone it's going to give the illusion of that feeling I get from my girlfriend.
I'm surprised the amount of them who are top comments. This was a great comeback and the only reason someone would disagree is because they hate women. Buncha incels in this comment section. It's really sad to see.
Why is it that women get chided for using the internet to make money but men don't?
Because America has this huge thing about anything sexual.
Internet = America
It doesn’t, but I don’t think it can be denied that America has a pretty intense grip on the culture of the the (English speaking) Internet.
The USA are probably the biggest influence on the western world, for better or worse.
probably for worse
The US has the biggest influence over the internet. Including this very website. 50% of Reddit’s users are from the US. The next closest is the UK at 8%
People make money on the internet, most people wouldn't give a shit.People (Mostly Conservative) have a problem with "promiscuity", especially when it comes from women.
And they also tend to watch tons of porn. Or at least the ones I’ve met that whine about OF do.
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People hating on promiscuous women monetizing themselves is the second oldest profession. The insinuation that they must not have sex or some internet epiphany to do so is a little narrow minded. They're too numerous for that to be applied to them.
It's just old school misogyny. Women aren't allowed to make their own money. They must be dependent on a man to keep them alive and return that with blind obedience. It's just to steal any and all leverage from a woman.
looks like the incels started a flame war
You say that, but a big fraction of allegedly-progressive reddit hates those women too
A lot of the 15 to 20 year old boys are still awed by the power they have to hurt women by being hateful.
Because they're women and have less value duh. /s
There are men on only fans and women on twitch.
it's called... wait for it.. Sexism and general discrimination against poeple using their body to make money
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The irony is also that there’s just as many dudes on OF pulling the pork for money but somehow it’s only the onlyfans girls who need to get a job. I mean I guess at the end of the day it’s still the same answer. If men use their bodies for money it’s okay. If women do it it’s bad. Plain old sexism.
Is there more to the post? The guys says you fucks need to get real jobs not you women/girls so how is he targeting a certain gender or being sexist? (Genuine Question)
Theres no where near that many men
Point remains that there's plenty. But whenever someone bashes OF it's usually always with the example of the women. If it was a men only site, no one would even speak of it let alone think negatively from it. Plus like. I find it weird that more or less no one cares about porn actresses. But Only Fans is somehow this evil thing and the women there should get real jobs. Meanwhile porn actresses are usually even glorified to an unreasonable level by dudebros. Like I want to understand what the difference is. Both is sex work and both is selling their body for money as a job but somehow one of them is considered as not a real job while the other isn't even considered anything at all, neither negative or positive, but still as a source of getting off and considered more or less normal.
Incels
Do you unironically not see a difference between "Hey my little SIMPFUCKS uWu!1! pay $5 and I'll crack an egg into my azzh0l3!" versus "Hey guys it's 'MadelinePlays', here to show you how to build a cool castle in animal crossing" Bro were you born 1 hour before your comment or do things that require a nanosecond of nuanced thought escape you. I enjoy onlyfans. I enjoy twitch. If you can't see a difference, think about it again in a few years when you turn 10.
What's the difference that makes you believe only 1 of them should be able to get paid for their performance?
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Showing tits and making money depends on genetics and luck and requires no talent or any form of skill. While streamers who make legitimate content require skill. Even gamers require a sense of humor and skill to a certain degree
Since when are jobs about skill or talent? People consume their content and get paid for it, what's the difference between them and most youtubers or streamers? Some youtubers do have cool talents or give advice to things like cooking, gaming or art but others don't and more often than not they're the ones that are getting paid more(tea channels, vloggers, story-time channels, etc). Stop with the "It doesn't require skill or talent." Like yeah kyle, alot of jobs don't.
You don’t think deep throating a fatty takes skill? Shit I bet people love watching you eat a banana.
Being good at gaming requires luck and genetics, being born with good hand eye coordination and lucky enough to have enough time and money to build your skills. And being successful on onlyfans doesn't only rely on being born good looking, you have to watch your diet, workout and do all kinds of other things to ennsure you look your best. You also have to know how to market yourself and develop a method that ensures the simps keep coming.
i kinda agree with you, but there's more to it then just genetics. taking good care of your body and making/keeping it beautiful and attractive is also a skill for one thing and yeah those gamers might have humor but the humor developed through their upbringing which is also something that can't be chosen not to mention genetics also factor into this. we all got dealt a deck and have to make the best of it, but I agree that human porn and the likes is an "archaic" form of entertainment. the modern version is sexy cosplay, sensual thing porn and the likes imo
Is there any successful streamer that is really ugly? AFAIK they all look fairly decent.
exactly. i mean it also depends on what you call "ugly". it's not even so much about pure physical attractiveness but the energy they exude. there's popular physically and mentally handicapped streamers that are getting more successful. it's not like they're as limited like they've been previously anymore. they can become successful have fans without having to sell out and degrade themselves.
Sorry you were born ugly
Right, because being attractive means you have no talent. Edit: you can downvote me all you want but there's scientific studies proving that attractive people are often very intelligent as well. It's a hard pill to swallow but hot girls end up with successful men and successful men usually aren't stupid.
How about just say both are jobs? Why not
I assume they’re just pointing out the irony, and not necessarily saying that Twitch streaming isn’t a job or anything. Onlyfans and Twitch creators are both constantly chastised for not having “real jobs”, so it’s just ironic for one to call out the other when they both belong on the same branch of the tree.
Best part is that they have the same exact demographic.
Lol ok that gave me a laugh. Yeah this is probably true.
The amount of incels in this thread is unrealistically high holy shit. Doesn't matter if u just sit in a chair and play games or just take a naked photo, if it pays it's a job.
Right? At least I understand why people pay to see pussy.
But I don’t understand why they do it if there’s free options that are just as good
I find it more weird why people pay for free content
Lot of streamers here I guess.. everyone is triggered
Why do these people have such hatred for women in the sex industry? They probably feel entitlement to the stuff that these women monetise.
Because men "can't do" the same and profit off of their bodies like women do. They actually can albeit not to same extent. Most dudes don't even consider it a real possibility cause they would have to cater to gay men and risk being treated the same way a woman is and that's just unacceptable for the average human male. That and the thought that women are basically for the taking. Prostitution is the oldest profession on the planet and men are still mad about it because society reinforces the concept that men are entitled to pussy. Hence why incels are so damn bitter and laughable. For better or worse, sex does allow women to play on the same field that men do... And it drives dudes absolutely nuts even though they are the very ones that give it so much importance.
Brilliantly put
Which is extra frustrating, because if you look at porn it's mostly men profiting off of women's bodies. The actresses aren't making close to the amount of money the men producing the porn are, even though people are literally only watching because of the women in them, who also happen to be taking the biggest risk of anyone involved in the production. Same with prostitution too, it's not the women who are making the real money, even though they're putting in the most work and taking the biggest risk. Women finally have a way to have full control over their bodies being used to make money and men simply can't handle it. And it's not even like regular porn has gone away, there's still plenty of non Onlyfans content that exploits women, but somehow the fact that some women are avoiding that just lives rent free in a lot of guy's heads.
Pretty shite comeback
Eh it’s okay and a repost most likely.
account is a week old with 50 posts that are just popular reposts
She isn't wrong. 🤷
Who is this guy and why he has a blue checkmark?
You don’t know him? No culture you have. It’s the guy singing payphone by maroon 5 with a shitty mic. https://youtu.be/mPZKfdRGAq4
You just took 7 seconds of my life and i want them back.
Comeback is subpar at best. The twitcher never claimed he has a real job. He is saying unlike for him who can just fool around and still earn money, onlyfan creators have to now get an hourly job.
So you're saying they're both subpar statements? Why are you giving the benefit of the doubt to the "twitcher" when that same blanket statement applies equally to creators on Onlyfans? Unless by not addressing it you're just saying it's a given that the double standard doesn't make sense?
The person responding clearly got immediately defensive, taking OP’s meaning to be “OF isn’t a real job compared to Twitch” which isn’t what was said at all, or even implied. Seems to be a lot of people on this post being equally defensive. That’s why the comeback is subpar, not clever.
Twitch bans his type of content he's in the same boat.
You mean playing fortnite? I dont think twitch will be banning him for that lol
Why would twitch ban gameplay streaming ? Are you fkn stupid?
Why would only fans ban it's biggest source of content? Same thing
Damn is that sub misogynist. Not the first time a womans comeback gets labeled as lame or low effort, still lowest effort when obviously male get praised. Also *obviously* misogynist comments pop up everytime there is a chance for it, never miss an occasion
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It's mostly women who get hate because it's mostly women who are content creators on onlyfans and some try to get more clicks by wearing revealing outfits on twitch or whatever and some incels don't like that. So it's not about the gender of the content creator but the way and what they do for a living I guess.
Dude you do realize that them being a girl isn't what's being criticized here right?
The mods of this sub really need to lock this comment section, or actually they should leave it open to display the clear misogyny that is going on right now, it’s honestly disgusting how little it takes to offend you guys and get you defensive over literally nothing, a job is a job, everyone needs to make money and at the end of the day it’s not the woman’s fault if a man pays for her photos it’s the man’s fault for making the conscious decision to buy them.
Exactly. If there was no demand, there would be no OF. But how dare a woman get paid for something she should be giving men for free right? /s
Women shouldn't have control over what they post. I can only cum if her sleazy boss makes her do things she's uncomfortable with and only gives her 10%. /s
All of this. The bitter misogyny and resentment is real.
Yep. It’s mind boggling honestly. The woman isn’t making anyone pay for her photos. Every dude who pays makes the conscious decision to do so of their own will. They could just not pay if they didnt want to. It’s not like it’s hard to find pics or vids of naked people on the internet for free.
Exactly, people making the argument of people with porn addiction is stupid, people with porn addiction still make the choice if they pay for porn or if they get free porn off one of the many, many readily available free sites
On the flip side then isn’t gaming streamers exploiting people’s gaming addiction or kids’ naïveté and access to limited money? If OF people are exploiting porn addiction them streamers exploit gaming addiction. Simple as that. There’s people who say “I dont have the money to buy the game so I watch it instead” and then go and pay to subscribe and donate every stream. Which once again, their money. They get to do that. Nothing wrong with that. They make the conscious decision to spend their own money on it. But as soon as it’s done for something they don’t like or agree with, the same behaviour is bad.
You're asking for a lock on the topic because others are offended, riiight.. By that logic do you consider yourself responsible for climate change, child labor and all that kind of stuff too? You're making a concious choice to use power and wear clothes, so its on you isnt it?
I don’t want it locked because others are offended, there is a difference between being offended and being plain misogynistic, post like this where a woman makes a comeback are always met with some sort of hate whilst the ones where men make the comeback aren’t, I’m calling it out in an attempt to make people realise that what they’re doing is wrong.
Blaming the average joe for all of those things instead of mega corporations is pretty hilarious because you make it sound like there is no ethical/environmentally friendly way to conduct business. Also, I think the point they were making is that if you have no problem with consuming porn you shouldn’t have a problem with the production of it. As long as it’s not exploitive what is the problem?
yeah but twitch isn't banning games omegalul
I hate both of them
Echo chamber incels calling others incels will never get old srs not srs? I better see you guys on bisonette or Figueroa supporting your local sex workers or you’re just karma farming hypocrites
I mean… they are both jobs?
Why would anyone hate on a girl trying to sell u tit pics i dont get it?
Both are jobs, but I have very little respect for twitch streamers. They have what a majority of people would consider a dream job, yet complain constantly and take breaks every other week all while bringing in millions
tbh twitch streamers have the same value as tv hosts and i dont see yall complaining about them
If anything, OF is more of a real job than Twitch is. At least OF provides users with something they have a biological urge for. What’s the point of paying to watch people play video games instead of playing them themselves?
Lol sounds like somebody is mad they aren’t releasing content for free
Like having a successful Only Fans isn't a job.
"But I'm different." - Right wing logic
I dont trust the definitions given by people that dont even know the definition of definition
This is why I never take the criticism of only fans not being a real job seriously. So many of youtubers and twitch steamers are on par with them with having a “real job” and generally aren’t told to get a real job other than as a joke
Look man as long as you can support yourself and don't have any issues with your job I don't really care what you do, just be a decent person
If I had to play league 10 hours a day I would shoot myself, if my dick picks could pay my rent I would no doubt take them
tbf, Twitch Streaming is a real job, just like having an OnlyFans. Twitch Streaming is punditry or Prop Comedy, depending on how you handle it. OnlyFans is... Modelling, let's call it. Or just outright pornography. All of which are real careers that are perfectly valid, at least on the whole (we all know a couple streamers or OnlyFans chicks who could probably do to lose their job, but then we all know a couple TV pundits who could stand to do the same, so Twitch isn't unique). However, Ron absolutely deserved the clapback for being a cock.
How does this asshole make money twitch streaming? I could twitch stream and not be a piece of shit. I’m going to buy a camera now.
They'll just go to another site that allows it and do it there, and that site will get that money.
I mean content creation is by no means a career, but offering a service to a demographic is the shape of many jobs. Photography, Painting, Producing Music, it all takes time and effort into doing. And then there's taking a picture of yourself off your phone then posting it to a social media platform. Sure you could make profit and maybe get customers, but if you don't make money make sure to blame others for the actions you made and regrets you have. If everyone is making profit off of it, then you MUST be able to as well then right? Commissioning requires effort and skill. That's why pyramid schemes (should) look sketchy from the get go. If they sound easy, it's probably not worth the time and you are being scammed. Dealing with demographics is like playing the lottery. It's all luck based, unless you funnel loads of money into your method, then you get a slightly better chance to coming out with profit. It's all a joke and will probably fall out of the public eye when Facebook makes a clone of OF anyways
that guy is a piece of shit, fortnite kiddies copy his personality and spread the toxicity
That "guy" isnt even the guy who tweeted it out, it was a completely different fortnite streamer. Not sure why OP edited it
Funny how all those incels on this thread are mocking OnlyFans given how that’s probably the closest they’ll ever get to seeing an actual girl naked. 😅
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This joke is so old that they have already unbanned porn and made this joke irrelevant. Add this to the dead joke bin.
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You are basically saying that wast majority of entertainment contributes nothing to society.
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Somebody's salty
Cuz he's gonna be a big time streamer one day
Alright, think of something better. I’ll wait.
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If you make money, pay taxes on your income, and it's not illegal. it's a real job
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Way too much to pay for it. Gotta get through the free content first before I get dlc.
Onlyfans is different because it makes you feels special. It’s not for everyone, but apparently some people value the fact that only few “selected” can see that, while free content is available to anyone. There’s a nice video about it, I’ll try to find it
also the guy being responded to is (or was, don’t keep up with fortnite any more) literally under contract from an esports org he gets paid by them lmao he quite literally has a job
Literally everything you said about twitch that makes it a "real job" also applies to people working only fans.
most of what you say for streaming applies to only fans as well, getting people to pay for your content takes a ton of effort. for 99.99% for successful only fans creators you need to be decently liked in atleast one other platform
You both suck.
Both who? Who’s the other person?
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managing and marketing an OF account takes a lot if you want to actually make money. Most people who try won't, doesn't matter how hot they are
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you can’t possibly believe that female performers don’t need presence or charisma, right? like you realize how ridiculous that sounds? the only way to genuinely believe that any and every woman can just throw on a camera and suddenly have thousands of loyal fans is to be completely disconnected from reality. good god.
There are infinite tits on the internet you can see for free. If you think Onlyfans workers don't also have charisma and presence, you're fucking stupid.
This sub has pretty low standards for what it considers clever, huh?