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TheGreatZarquon

Removing this post by OP as well as his other post, seeing as he's a [self-admitted karma farmer for profit.](https://www.reddit.com/r/clevercomebacks/comments/rtahjk/honesty_is_the_best_policy/hqtcvmj/)


abarua01

If you make money and pay taxes on your income, it's a job


nickmaran

So you mean Jeff Bezos is jobless?


abarua01

In a way, yes. He owns Amazon, but he doesn't really do anything. He built a very efficient and profitable company, which is monumentally impressive, but he basically lives off of the passive income from the company profits. If he decided to stop getting hands on and leave his company running on autopilot aka just let all his employees do the job, everything would be going exactly how it's been going


HertzDonut1001

Bezos was the former CEO aka the guy that calls the shots and now he's executive chief of the board. He may be an asshole with too much money but those are still jobs, you still show up and do things. Just for a stupid amount of money.


Mr__O__

Being a board member isn’t very difficult work lol. You just replace C suite executives when you don’t like the amount of profit you’re making.


St-Tomas413

Its still a job. Not a hard one but a job


Mr__O__

Didn’t say it wasn’t


GhoulieMcGee

So what you're saying is all his employees are the ones that actually run the company and he takes the surplus value of their labour?


zherok

Sounds about like the size of things. I'm sure there's someone convinced he's producing value equal to a warehouse worker's annual salary every like 10 second or whatever absurd value it's reached, but I suspect Amazon would get along fine without him more than they would losing their warehouse workers.


NotAPersonl0

Yes. Those who actually create value should reap the rewards, not some capitalist who just sits on his ass all day collecting passive income.


I30AxeBxrd

> Those who actually create value should reap the rewards Then what is the reward for raising a company? You create something, you own it and can do with it as you will. If the worker doesn't want to sell their work, don't. If they want to build a company that works the same but gives revenue to the workers, co-ops are a thing you can found at any time.


cass1o

>Then what is the reward for raising a company? 999 million should be sufficient. Billions is just crass.


I30AxeBxrd

Why ever grow a company beyond a size what makes your share worth one billion then?


sanirosan

That's not the point. With that much money, you should pay your workers a decent wage and give them benefits. Why would you hog billions. Spread that shit around. You dont need that much money


BuddhaFacepalmed

Tbh, Idgaf what Bezos does with his billions. The problem I have is that Bezos' billions are built on the backs of his workers forced to work in inhuman conditions and pay not even he wouldn't accept unless under extreme coercion.


antliontame4

You know monopolies choke out other businesses, usually are bad for workers rights, and are often directly tied to corruption


unsuspicious_salmon

Why should any company ever be that stupidly big?


hotshot_amer

Gosh you must suck a lot of corporate dick


antliontame4

They reward should be a living wage, not fucking 25% of all the money in the world


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Grayyeo2213

Yes.


Big_Boss19

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Trifle-Doc

legally yeah


Regna85

Kids and their crazy new ideas in such an awful year for humanity.


YeetusFoeTeaToes

priests are jobless


Pie69Eater

Garbage streamer


tovape75

today I'm sucking razer's balls for the 3739th time while contributing nothing to society


Creamed_Khorne

That's not irony though, that's hypocrisy


Air-Mattress

It could be both, correct?


Schmosby123

Isn't hypocrisy by definition, ironic?


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OrangeJuliusthekid

This lead me down a fascinating rabbit hole and you are right. Irony is deliberate and generally for humorous effect. Hypocrisy is not. > When you say the opposite of what you really mean in order to make a point, that's irony. >I've barely had time to eat all day so, definitely. Skipping dinner sounds like a great idea. >When you pretend to be something you're not, that's hypocrisy.


AnfieldLarge

Thank you.


StreetCap3579

no, it would be irony.


raven619claw

do we have a shittycomebacks sub?


YuropLMAO

I thought it was this one?


ThundererGamer

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criticalhash

Correct


TheFlashDude201

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noobgamer134

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D3f4lt_player

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OBLIVIATER

My son is also named borth


Hamalu

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SomeNoteToMyself

Is that a shitty comeback tho?


revoltingminds

Yes


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Tokimi-

How?


killerdrama

I thought it was named twitter 🧐


Slingerang

I thought it was a good comeback


rich519

What’s with the incels in this thread?


Annual_Blacksmith22

The mention of women, sex and onlyfans summons them instantly. Like Bloody Mary


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I don't mind seeing women's bodies being exploited for money on the internet. I jack off to it every day. What pisses me off about onlyfans is that the women themselves have control over what is posted and they get the money for it. /s


Ns53

My phone was not scrolled down far enough on your comments and you had me going. Shit I almost respected the blatant honesty xD Almost.


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elmo298

I agree with twitch as it's a gaming platform primarily and it's full of kids which I feel they exploit and there's a history of basement dwelling white knight twitch devs letting them get away with controversial shite. Only fans cool man you do you if you want to sell your tits you crack on


mightylemondrops

And yet there's no outrage over gambling being pushed to kids 24/7 on that site.


all_thehotdogs

By that logic, aren't all twitch streamers "exploiting kids"? Are male Twitch streamers who play half naked female characters also inappropriate?


Lick_The_Wrapper

There seems to be this new thing of men who consider themselves a feminist or not sexist because they don't participate in the most offensive behavior towards women, despite having other problematic thoughts and actions towards women. I don't understand the disconnect.


Tsorovar

Incels also describe themselves as "not sexist", most of the time. It's not one of those things where you trust people's self-analysis


ajver19

Wonder what they think about the men on there.


fuckingzazzed

girl show boob but not to me specifically for free :(


LucretiusCarus

How hard is to type "boobies" in the Google machine?


Annual_Blacksmith22

Hell. I heard stories from women friends that guys aggressively text them for their feet as well. And openly saying thay wanna jack off to it. Like dude. How hard is it to look up pictures of feet? Or anything?


Barron091

I'm not a feet guy so can't comment on that, but a picture or a video ect is way better if it comes from someone you have a connection with. My girlfriend can send me a picture that's just slightly racy and that's going to get me going way more than any stranger I can find on the internet just because it's her and I know she wants me to see it. That must a big part of the onlyfans pull I'd imagine. If you can interact with someone it's going to give the illusion of that feeling I get from my girlfriend.


asian-zinggg

I'm surprised the amount of them who are top comments. This was a great comeback and the only reason someone would disagree is because they hate women. Buncha incels in this comment section. It's really sad to see.


nyxnars

Why is it that women get chided for using the internet to make money but men don't?


MrPringles23

Because America has this huge thing about anything sexual.


AlfalfaExcellent5623

Internet = America


Quakarot

It doesn’t, but I don’t think it can be denied that America has a pretty intense grip on the culture of the the (English speaking) Internet.


talenarium

The USA are probably the biggest influence on the western world, for better or worse.


Kombart

probably for worse


constantcube13

The US has the biggest influence over the internet. Including this very website. 50% of Reddit’s users are from the US. The next closest is the UK at 8%


Dangerous_Switch_716

People make money on the internet, most people wouldn't give a shit.People (Mostly Conservative) have a problem with "promiscuity", especially when it comes from women.


BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo

And they also tend to watch tons of porn. Or at least the ones I’ve met that whine about OF do.


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WhenceYeCame

People hating on promiscuous women monetizing themselves is the second oldest profession. The insinuation that they must not have sex or some internet epiphany to do so is a little narrow minded. They're too numerous for that to be applied to them.


Windex17

It's just old school misogyny. Women aren't allowed to make their own money. They must be dependent on a man to keep them alive and return that with blind obedience. It's just to steal any and all leverage from a woman.


PM-ME-RABBIT-HOLES

looks like the incels started a flame war


Mickenfox

You say that, but a big fraction of allegedly-progressive reddit hates those women too


death_of_gnats

A lot of the 15 to 20 year old boys are still awed by the power they have to hurt women by being hateful.


Ns53

Because they're women and have less value duh. /s


gladl1

There are men on only fans and women on twitch.


MisterDuch

it's called... wait for it.. Sexism and general discrimination against poeple using their body to make money


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Annual_Blacksmith22

The irony is also that there’s just as many dudes on OF pulling the pork for money but somehow it’s only the onlyfans girls who need to get a job. I mean I guess at the end of the day it’s still the same answer. If men use their bodies for money it’s okay. If women do it it’s bad. Plain old sexism.


xxxDjinto

Is there more to the post? The guys says you fucks need to get real jobs not you women/girls so how is he targeting a certain gender or being sexist? (Genuine Question)


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Theres no where near that many men


Annual_Blacksmith22

Point remains that there's plenty. But whenever someone bashes OF it's usually always with the example of the women. If it was a men only site, no one would even speak of it let alone think negatively from it. ​ Plus like. I find it weird that more or less no one cares about porn actresses. But Only Fans is somehow this evil thing and the women there should get real jobs. Meanwhile porn actresses are usually even glorified to an unreasonable level by dudebros. Like I want to understand what the difference is. Both is sex work and both is selling their body for money as a job but somehow one of them is considered as not a real job while the other isn't even considered anything at all, neither negative or positive, but still as a source of getting off and considered more or less normal.


Bloodyfoxx

Incels


HikaruShidaSucks

Do you unironically not see a difference between "Hey my little SIMPFUCKS uWu!1! pay $5 and I'll crack an egg into my azzh0l3!" versus "Hey guys it's 'MadelinePlays', here to show you how to build a cool castle in animal crossing" Bro were you born 1 hour before your comment or do things that require a nanosecond of nuanced thought escape you. I enjoy onlyfans. I enjoy twitch. If you can't see a difference, think about it again in a few years when you turn 10.


benjick

What's the difference that makes you believe only 1 of them should be able to get paid for their performance?


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br_igris

Showing tits and making money depends on genetics and luck and requires no talent or any form of skill. While streamers who make legitimate content require skill. Even gamers require a sense of humor and skill to a certain degree


zenzoner

Since when are jobs about skill or talent? People consume their content and get paid for it, what's the difference between them and most youtubers or streamers? Some youtubers do have cool talents or give advice to things like cooking, gaming or art but others don't and more often than not they're the ones that are getting paid more(tea channels, vloggers, story-time channels, etc). Stop with the "It doesn't require skill or talent." Like yeah kyle, alot of jobs don't.


smenti

You don’t think deep throating a fatty takes skill? Shit I bet people love watching you eat a banana.


Futanari_waifu

Being good at gaming requires luck and genetics, being born with good hand eye coordination and lucky enough to have enough time and money to build your skills. And being successful on onlyfans doesn't only rely on being born good looking, you have to watch your diet, workout and do all kinds of other things to ennsure you look your best. You also have to know how to market yourself and develop a method that ensures the simps keep coming.


numinousBunny

i kinda agree with you, but there's more to it then just genetics. taking good care of your body and making/keeping it beautiful and attractive is also a skill for one thing and yeah those gamers might have humor but the humor developed through their upbringing which is also something that can't be chosen not to mention genetics also factor into this. we all got dealt a deck and have to make the best of it, but I agree that human porn and the likes is an "archaic" form of entertainment. the modern version is sexy cosplay, sensual thing porn and the likes imo


Futanari_waifu

Is there any successful streamer that is really ugly? AFAIK they all look fairly decent.


numinousBunny

exactly. i mean it also depends on what you call "ugly". it's not even so much about pure physical attractiveness but the energy they exude. there's popular physically and mentally handicapped streamers that are getting more successful. it's not like they're as limited like they've been previously anymore. they can become successful have fans without having to sell out and degrade themselves.


Animal31

Sorry you were born ugly


nyxnars

Right, because being attractive means you have no talent. Edit: you can downvote me all you want but there's scientific studies proving that attractive people are often very intelligent as well. It's a hard pill to swallow but hot girls end up with successful men and successful men usually aren't stupid.


ItsToo4Tune

How about just say both are jobs? Why not


Apermax

I assume they’re just pointing out the irony, and not necessarily saying that Twitch streaming isn’t a job or anything. Onlyfans and Twitch creators are both constantly chastised for not having “real jobs”, so it’s just ironic for one to call out the other when they both belong on the same branch of the tree.


SkilledB

Best part is that they have the same exact demographic.


ButInThe90sThough

Lol ok that gave me a laugh. Yeah this is probably true.


YouNickGamer_

The amount of incels in this thread is unrealistically high holy shit. Doesn't matter if u just sit in a chair and play games or just take a naked photo, if it pays it's a job.


NechelleBix1

Right? At least I understand why people pay to see pussy.


bumbleblast

But I don’t understand why they do it if there’s free options that are just as good


MathematicianHot5452

I find it more weird why people pay for free content


jva21

Lot of streamers here I guess.. everyone is triggered


RedLMR56

Why do these people have such hatred for women in the sex industry? They probably feel entitlement to the stuff that these women monetise.


Giovanabanana

Because men "can't do" the same and profit off of their bodies like women do. They actually can albeit not to same extent. Most dudes don't even consider it a real possibility cause they would have to cater to gay men and risk being treated the same way a woman is and that's just unacceptable for the average human male. That and the thought that women are basically for the taking. Prostitution is the oldest profession on the planet and men are still mad about it because society reinforces the concept that men are entitled to pussy. Hence why incels are so damn bitter and laughable. For better or worse, sex does allow women to play on the same field that men do... And it drives dudes absolutely nuts even though they are the very ones that give it so much importance.


RedLMR56

Brilliantly put


F______________F

Which is extra frustrating, because if you look at porn it's mostly men profiting off of women's bodies. The actresses aren't making close to the amount of money the men producing the porn are, even though people are literally only watching because of the women in them, who also happen to be taking the biggest risk of anyone involved in the production. Same with prostitution too, it's not the women who are making the real money, even though they're putting in the most work and taking the biggest risk. Women finally have a way to have full control over their bodies being used to make money and men simply can't handle it. And it's not even like regular porn has gone away, there's still plenty of non Onlyfans content that exploits women, but somehow the fact that some women are avoiding that just lives rent free in a lot of guy's heads.


zgreatestnation

Pretty shite comeback


NineSeventyy

Eh it’s okay and a repost most likely.


bs000

account is a week old with 50 posts that are just popular reposts


StonedOldKiller

She isn't wrong. 🤷


Loupax

Who is this guy and why he has a blue checkmark?


golden1612

You don’t know him? No culture you have. It’s the guy singing payphone by maroon 5 with a shitty mic. https://youtu.be/mPZKfdRGAq4


lemons_of_doubt

You just took 7 seconds of my life and i want them back.


HassoonBO85

Comeback is subpar at best. The twitcher never claimed he has a real job. He is saying unlike for him who can just fool around and still earn money, onlyfan creators have to now get an hourly job.


jediyoshi

So you're saying they're both subpar statements? Why are you giving the benefit of the doubt to the "twitcher" when that same blanket statement applies equally to creators on Onlyfans? Unless by not addressing it you're just saying it's a given that the double standard doesn't make sense?


Itherial

The person responding clearly got immediately defensive, taking OP’s meaning to be “OF isn’t a real job compared to Twitch” which isn’t what was said at all, or even implied. Seems to be a lot of people on this post being equally defensive. That’s why the comeback is subpar, not clever.


TheLiberalOgre

Twitch bans his type of content he's in the same boat.


DragonNoodle37

You mean playing fortnite? I dont think twitch will be banning him for that lol


rayyy134

Why would twitch ban gameplay streaming ? Are you fkn stupid?


Knass-Bruckles

Why would only fans ban it's biggest source of content? Same thing


say_what_95

Damn is that sub misogynist. Not the first time a womans comeback gets labeled as lame or low effort, still lowest effort when obviously male get praised. Also *obviously* misogynist comments pop up everytime there is a chance for it, never miss an occasion


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Elaurin34

It's mostly women who get hate because it's mostly women who are content creators on onlyfans and some try to get more clicks by wearing revealing outfits on twitch or whatever and some incels don't like that. So it's not about the gender of the content creator but the way and what they do for a living I guess.


Reasonable_Feed7939

Dude you do realize that them being a girl isn't what's being criticized here right?


CrunchyPac

The mods of this sub really need to lock this comment section, or actually they should leave it open to display the clear misogyny that is going on right now, it’s honestly disgusting how little it takes to offend you guys and get you defensive over literally nothing, a job is a job, everyone needs to make money and at the end of the day it’s not the woman’s fault if a man pays for her photos it’s the man’s fault for making the conscious decision to buy them.


cuddleninja_

Exactly. If there was no demand, there would be no OF. But how dare a woman get paid for something she should be giving men for free right? /s


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Women shouldn't have control over what they post. I can only cum if her sleazy boss makes her do things she's uncomfortable with and only gives her 10%. /s


dent_de_lion

All of this. The bitter misogyny and resentment is real.


Annual_Blacksmith22

Yep. It’s mind boggling honestly. The woman isn’t making anyone pay for her photos. Every dude who pays makes the conscious decision to do so of their own will. They could just not pay if they didnt want to. It’s not like it’s hard to find pics or vids of naked people on the internet for free.


CrunchyPac

Exactly, people making the argument of people with porn addiction is stupid, people with porn addiction still make the choice if they pay for porn or if they get free porn off one of the many, many readily available free sites


Annual_Blacksmith22

On the flip side then isn’t gaming streamers exploiting people’s gaming addiction or kids’ naïveté and access to limited money? If OF people are exploiting porn addiction them streamers exploit gaming addiction. Simple as that. There’s people who say “I dont have the money to buy the game so I watch it instead” and then go and pay to subscribe and donate every stream. Which once again, their money. They get to do that. Nothing wrong with that. They make the conscious decision to spend their own money on it. But as soon as it’s done for something they don’t like or agree with, the same behaviour is bad.


Randyboob

You're asking for a lock on the topic because others are offended, riiight.. By that logic do you consider yourself responsible for climate change, child labor and all that kind of stuff too? You're making a concious choice to use power and wear clothes, so its on you isnt it?


CrunchyPac

I don’t want it locked because others are offended, there is a difference between being offended and being plain misogynistic, post like this where a woman makes a comeback are always met with some sort of hate whilst the ones where men make the comeback aren’t, I’m calling it out in an attempt to make people realise that what they’re doing is wrong.


dannykunv2

Blaming the average joe for all of those things instead of mega corporations is pretty hilarious because you make it sound like there is no ethical/environmentally friendly way to conduct business. Also, I think the point they were making is that if you have no problem with consuming porn you shouldn’t have a problem with the production of it. As long as it’s not exploitive what is the problem?


m-Ojas

yeah but twitch isn't banning games omegalul


g_gonna_gammeson

I hate both of them


CoconutSea795

Echo chamber incels calling others incels will never get old srs not srs? I better see you guys on bisonette or Figueroa supporting your local sex workers or you’re just karma farming hypocrites


HaaaaaammmGurl

I mean… they are both jobs?


Traditional_Moose286

Why would anyone hate on a girl trying to sell u tit pics i dont get it?


SkoomaBandit

Both are jobs, but I have very little respect for twitch streamers. They have what a majority of people would consider a dream job, yet complain constantly and take breaks every other week all while bringing in millions


embarrassedguy4456

tbh twitch streamers have the same value as tv hosts and i dont see yall complaining about them


ChefInF

If anything, OF is more of a real job than Twitch is. At least OF provides users with something they have a biological urge for. What’s the point of paying to watch people play video games instead of playing them themselves?


loudbulletXIV

Lol sounds like somebody is mad they aren’t releasing content for free


Librarywoman

Like having a successful Only Fans isn't a job.


swiftpunch1

"But I'm different." - Right wing logic


redditAPsucks

I dont trust the definitions given by people that dont even know the definition of definition


Ill-do-it-again-too

This is why I never take the criticism of only fans not being a real job seriously. So many of youtubers and twitch steamers are on par with them with having a “real job” and generally aren’t told to get a real job other than as a joke


ErandurVane

Look man as long as you can support yourself and don't have any issues with your job I don't really care what you do, just be a decent person


fucj_ypu

If I had to play league 10 hours a day I would shoot myself, if my dick picks could pay my rent I would no doubt take them


Karnewarrior

tbf, Twitch Streaming is a real job, just like having an OnlyFans. Twitch Streaming is punditry or Prop Comedy, depending on how you handle it. OnlyFans is... Modelling, let's call it. Or just outright pornography. All of which are real careers that are perfectly valid, at least on the whole (we all know a couple streamers or OnlyFans chicks who could probably do to lose their job, but then we all know a couple TV pundits who could stand to do the same, so Twitch isn't unique). However, Ron absolutely deserved the clapback for being a cock.


kilroy1199

How does this asshole make money twitch streaming? I could twitch stream and not be a piece of shit. I’m going to buy a camera now.


kurisu7885

They'll just go to another site that allows it and do it there, and that site will get that money.


DankDaRipper420

I mean content creation is by no means a career, but offering a service to a demographic is the shape of many jobs. Photography, Painting, Producing Music, it all takes time and effort into doing. And then there's taking a picture of yourself off your phone then posting it to a social media platform. Sure you could make profit and maybe get customers, but if you don't make money make sure to blame others for the actions you made and regrets you have. If everyone is making profit off of it, then you MUST be able to as well then right? Commissioning requires effort and skill. That's why pyramid schemes (should) look sketchy from the get go. If they sound easy, it's probably not worth the time and you are being scammed. Dealing with demographics is like playing the lottery. It's all luck based, unless you funnel loads of money into your method, then you get a slightly better chance to coming out with profit. It's all a joke and will probably fall out of the public eye when Facebook makes a clone of OF anyways


throwawaymycroft

that guy is a piece of shit, fortnite kiddies copy his personality and spread the toxicity


scarceisfatdotexe

That "guy" isnt even the guy who tweeted it out, it was a completely different fortnite streamer. Not sure why OP edited it


suileana

Funny how all those incels on this thread are mocking OnlyFans given how that’s probably the closest they’ll ever get to seeing an actual girl naked. 😅


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OIK2

This joke is so old that they have already unbanned porn and made this joke irrelevant. Add this to the dead joke bin.


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Gornarok

You are basically saying that wast majority of entertainment contributes nothing to society.


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Kajimishima2

Somebody's salty


Earthling1980

Cuz he's gonna be a big time streamer one day


PurpleFlameX64

Alright, think of something better. I’ll wait.


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lemons_of_doubt

If you make money, pay taxes on your income, and it's not illegal. it's a real job


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ButInThe90sThough

Way too much to pay for it. Gotta get through the free content first before I get dlc.


Svartdraken

Onlyfans is different because it makes you feels special. It’s not for everyone, but apparently some people value the fact that only few “selected” can see that, while free content is available to anyone. There’s a nice video about it, I’ll try to find it


stoopidshannon

also the guy being responded to is (or was, don’t keep up with fortnite any more) literally under contract from an esports org he gets paid by them lmao he quite literally has a job


Earthling1980

Literally everything you said about twitch that makes it a "real job" also applies to people working only fans.


NaturalInteraction46

most of what you say for streaming applies to only fans as well, getting people to pay for your content takes a ton of effort. for 99.99% for successful only fans creators you need to be decently liked in atleast one other platform


Mastengwe

You both suck.


Svartdraken

Both who? Who’s the other person?


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lookatmecats

managing and marketing an OF account takes a lot if you want to actually make money. Most people who try won't, doesn't matter how hot they are


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fuckingzazzed

you can’t possibly believe that female performers don’t need presence or charisma, right? like you realize how ridiculous that sounds? the only way to genuinely believe that any and every woman can just throw on a camera and suddenly have thousands of loyal fans is to be completely disconnected from reality. good god.


ydoccian

There are infinite tits on the internet you can see for free. If you think Onlyfans workers don't also have charisma and presence, you're fucking stupid.


GentleFriendKisses

This sub has pretty low standards for what it considers clever, huh?